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Re: Renault 4

Postod luci » Pon Jan 18, 2010 2:52 pm

mene nervira sto se ljulja jugic malo, nikad nemam 00 da ga poteram koliko imam osecaj da bi isao jer se plasim da ce me prevariti... sa renoom ne smem ni da pretpostavim sta bi bilo
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Re: Renault 4

Postod Superbird » Pon Jan 18, 2010 3:33 pm

Smem ja, jer sam se bas navozao u tom Renou, a i prevezao dve ili tri hiljade. Nista.
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Re: Renault 4

Postod luci » Pon Jan 18, 2010 4:00 pm

posto sam se voyio sa tobom verujem da i nisi merodavan... to vozis udobno a ne brzo.... ti se ipak nisi vozio sa mnom po mom lokalu....
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Re: Renault 4

Postod djape1977 » Uto Jan 19, 2010 12:12 am

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Re: Renault 4

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Re: Renault 4

Postod Superbird » Uto Jan 19, 2010 1:57 pm

Zato italijanski ekvivalent u vidu Fiata 850 i kasnije 127 ide kao blesav. :roll:

Pritom je napravljen mnooogo kvalitetnije, secam se kad smo imali 127 / 900ccm, ako se desi na relaciji od 100 kilometara nesto ne zakaze, cale nas vodi na cevape. A Renaultom 4 TL iz 1978. smo bez nekog tangiranja isli na more.

Ovo nisam napisao da bih zezao Fiatiste, vec da pokazem da u to vreme, u toj klasi, niko nije nudio nesto spektakularno bolje od R4, naprotiv. Dva poslednja komentara su u najmanju ruku detinjasta. "Nemam argumente, aj da se rugam performansama (motora od 846 ccm iz 60-ih godina)" :roll:
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Re: Renault 4

Postod djape1977 » Uto Jan 19, 2010 7:30 pm

i mini je isti drek kao i fica, r4, buba... imao ga je moj brat. kad god me je vozio imao sam utisak da mi se vuce dupe po asfaltu koliko je neudoban
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Postod HEMI 426 » Uto Jan 19, 2010 7:34 pm

Jeste ali Mini je imao prednju vucu, popreko motor i koncepciju koju danas svi imaju, bio je auto ispred svog vremena. Mini je i lezao neverovatno i jedan od prvih "GTI" modela sa Cooper verzijom. Rally sport se ne bi mogao zamisliti bez Minija ( i Escorta ). Svi ostali modeli su bili primitivniji. Ako pogledas Ficu i Minija, Abarth i Cooper, to su neuporedive stvari. Abarth je bio polutrkacki specijal napravljen u malo primeraka a Coopera je napravljeno preko 100 000 komada. Da ne govorimo o tome da je Fica Abarth bio uspesan samo na kruznim stazama a Mini na rally i krugu...
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Re: Renault 4

Postod 911s [SK] » Sre Jan 20, 2010 4:46 pm

Ista priča kao i sa Bubom, Spačekom-Dijanom i Minijem - predugo su se proizvodili, u početku u odnosu na konkurenciju su bili super, ali mnogo kasnije...
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Postod super 600 » Čet Jan 21, 2010 1:40 pm

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Re: Renault 4

Postod HEMI 426 » Čet Jan 21, 2010 1:58 pm

Abarth je prve uspehe na rallyu ( mislim na pravi rally - blato, kamenje, prasina i sneg ) imao sa sa 124 Spiderom dok se Mini mlatarao po Monte Carlu ( i pobedjivao ) jos od ranih 60tih. Toliko je bio dobar da mu je cak i ukradena titula od strane nemocne konkurencije. To sto je vama ovde Mini bio nepouzdan i spartanski podesen, to je samo jedno negativno iskustvo u moru drugih pozitivnih na globalnom nivou... Sa druge strane, posto pricamo o odnosu civilnih vozila ( a ne samo o racing uspesima ), Mini je naspram Fiata 600 imao daleko vise verzija ( Clubman, Van, pick up, Mini Moke... ) i Fiat je imao slicnih poksaja sa ali su svi bili napravljeni u smesnim ciframa.


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Re: Renault 4

Postod super 600 » Čet Jan 21, 2010 2:16 pm

Ako koza laže...Šampion Italije u reliju 1965! Pre minijevih prvih pokušaja. Imam i starije fotografije i rezultate. Samo kaži koju godinu hoćeš. A sa varijantama na bazi Fiata 600 mogao bih da zatrpam forum... ;)

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Re: Renault 4

Postod super 600 » Čet Jan 21, 2010 2:26 pm

Nikada ne treba zaboraviti pricu o John "Smokin' " Rods-u
Priča samo govori o još jednoj konstruktivnoj budalaštini na vozilu! Točak koji češe o krilo pa dimi? Možda je efektno za gledaoce, ali lako može da ode glava!
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Re: Renault 4

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Re: Renault 4

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Re: Renault 4

Postod Superbird » Čet Jan 21, 2010 4:57 pm

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Postod HEMI 426 » Čet Jan 21, 2010 7:17 pm

Ali Mini je izasao 1959 godine... ;)
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Re: Renault 4

Postod Superbird » Čet Jan 21, 2010 10:26 pm

2 CV je izasao 1948.
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Postod super 600 » Pet Jan 22, 2010 1:20 am

Da ne bi dalje teoretisali i kovali u zvezde i minija i "genija" Isigonisa. John Walter Christie je još 1903. godine započeo proizvodnju automobila sa popreko smeštenim motorom i menjačem i pogonom na prednje točkove. U prilogu se lepo vidi i savremeno rešeno prednje vešanje na modelu iz 1908. godine, tačno pola veka pre minija. Hidrolastik vešanje je takođe mnogo stariji patent, menjač koji se podmazivao uljem iz kartera motora koristio je Salmson još dvadesetih godina... Elem, Isigonis je samo vešto u minija upakovao više starih tehničkih rešenja. Za razliku od prethodnika ( Kristijev taksi iz 1908. viđao se na ulicama Njujorka do tridesetih godina prošlog veka), koji su bili "pravi" automobili, mini je bio prava neudobna, tesna, bučna i poprilično tehnički nepouzdana kantica. PREVOZ! Baš kao i svi ostali iz te klase. U startu se jako slabo prodavao, sve dok i Englezi nisu "kupili" Abartov patent i bacili akcenat na sport.

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Re: Renault 4

Postod Austin » Uto Jan 26, 2010 1:04 pm

If it has tits or tires, sooner or later it's going to cause you trouble and cost you money!
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Re: Renault 4

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Re: Renault 4

Postod nenad » Uto Jan 26, 2010 3:22 pm

:crazy: Renault 4 tema :silent:
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Re: Renault 4

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Re: Renault 4

Postod djape1977 » Uto Jan 26, 2010 3:36 pm

sta fali malo offtopic-a???

nego taj dunlop SP, imao sam ih u vise navrata na raznim autima, i sada su napred na ladi 205/60/13, klizave gume do zla boga, tvrda smesa ili sta vec? mnogo bolje su mi se pokazale yokohame, falken, fulda... ili te dunlop SP koje sam ja vozio nisu te o kojima se govori u trkackim krugovima?
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